The BAR.

[Meph]

Explain why there's such gun called the mini then lol.

I've stated above that I don't endorse the bulk of the gun stats released within the past year.

That includes the Minigun.

[Random22]

Get used to your guns and melee's changing. Graal doesn't make these changes to make players happier, Graal makes the changes to make more money. They can't just keep coming out with better and better weapons so they constantly have to nerf guns to make headroom at the top so there's a new thing to spend gralats on. People who spend real money on guns need to understand this truth. Your guns over time are going to get nerfed. The things you buy with EC are over time going to get nerfed. Just enjoy the fact that for a while you had the "best" gun and know that in the future that "best" gun wont be the "best" and there will be another "best" gun to go out and spend your gralats/money on.

[Ventus]

I dont see what people are complaining about if anything the bar got an upgrade.

[SpyN64]

Hi all.
Yes you all know about the BAR's attributes being changed by the many threads being made.
The clip size has been reduced by 10 bullets down to 15, whilst the damage has been upped to 11 when in perfect condition. (10 default)
The reload time has been reduced, meaning a faster reload..
If you'd like to ask questions or discuss this topic, please do it here.
Thanks.
No BAR's will be refunded. Period.
(Im sure the description of the weapon will be updated soon.)

ok this is cool and all, and like the update, but id feel happier with the clip being 20. i bought the bar out of pure digging, since im not allowed to buy itunes anymore ;-;. slowly the clip has been getting smaller and smaller, and frankly, a clip of 15 doesnt seam to cut it. im not saying it should go back to 35, but i say, at least keep it no lower than 20.

[Nyx]

Get used to your guns and melee's changing. Graal doesn't make these changes to make players happier, Graal makes the changes to make more money.

Both Gun Admins don't get paid, I don't get your statement.

[Meph]

I don't know why people are unsatisfied with the BAR's change.

The only thing that has been severely changed on it is the Clip Size, but that's been countered with a quicker reload.
While you have to reload more frequently, you're less vulnerable when you have to reload, since the time spent reloading has been cut down 25%.
This means you can get back into the fight faster.

Additionally, they've increased the damage by 1; and while it may not assist you in any more in a 1v1 situation, it benefits you in a raid.

Let's say that you're raiding a base. You have a BAR, and you're with a group of friends who are all using M4s.
All of your guns are in perfect condition.
Let's say they hit the opponent 1 time, and you hit them four times.

• With the old BAR stats, your opponent would still be running around, threatening your team.
• But with the new BAR stats, he's dead, and you guys can shove some hotdogs in your mouth to prepare for the next unsuspecting victim.

And during events, guns are forced to be in 'Good' condition.
This means that the BAR used to be 9 damage; so you had to land 6 hits on your opponent.
But now it deals 10 in such events-- this means you can take an opponent out in 5 hits.

And let's not forget, you're able to reload faster now.

All of this considered, it depends on your angle:
For spammers, the gun has been nerfed. Sorry, your mindless spamming sessions have been cut in half.
For people actually applying technique, the gun has been buffed.

I'm not in the habit of catering to people who disgrace the game by spamming, so I have no sympathy for them.

[Enfy]

Both Gun Admins don't get paid, I don't get your statement.

He means that people pay rl money to get a good gun faster.

[Collin.]

Oh well.

No, not oh well. Events are a major apart of era, and all pk/spar based events don't deserve to be ruined becuase now the bar is even more OP. The buff -yes I consider it a buff- is not a good idea. The bar was already OP as it was, and now upping the damage and lowering the reload time makes it
More powerful. Yes it takes 5 shots to kill in perfect shape, but in certain circumstances it's just too powerful. Let's say someone has 32 health. Normally the bar does 10 damage. If you were to try to kill the person with 32 health, it would take 4 shots; 3*10=30<Which is less than 32 so it would take another shot 4*10>32 to kill the person. When using the new, 10 damage bar(11 upgraded; for this example I'm implying all guns are in perfect shape, as majority of people upgrade guns) it would take 3 shots to kill the person, as 11*3=33 which is greater than 32. That's a huge advantage. Don't try to retort saying the clip size was reduced and use that fact to say it was a nerf; the higher damage and fSter reload more than makes up for that.

As for what I said about events, the new bar has a huge advantage. In all pk/spar based events, all guns do damage they would normally do in good shape. With that being said, the bar took 6 shots to kill, while most other guns like the m4 or souizen, 8 damage guns, took 7 shots to kill. Yes the bar still had an advantage, but it was a reasonable, well-deserved one, considering it is basically the most expensive gun in the game. Now since the new bar does 10 dmg, it will do, does, 10 damage in events, which means it only takes 5 shots to kill, while like I just said, majority of other guns will take 7 shots to kill, and that's just stupidly unfair and that fact that bitszam had no idea this was even a problem worries me.

This needs to be fixed.

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I don't know why people are unsatisfied with the BAR's change.

The only thing that has been severely changed on it is the Clip Size, but that's been countered with a quicker reload.
While you have to reload more frequently, you're less vulnerable when you have to reload, since the time spent reloading has been cut down 25%.
This means you can get back into the fight faster.

Additionally, they've increased the damage by 1; and while it may not assist you in any more in a 1v1 situation, it benefits you in a raid.

Let's say that you're raiding a base. You have a BAR, and you're with a group of friends who are all using M4s.
All of your guns are in perfect condition.
Let's say they hit the opponent 1 time, and you hit them four times.

• With the old BAR stats, your opponent would still be running around, threatening your team.
• But with the new BAR stats, he's dead, and you guys can shove some hotdogs in your mouth to prepare for the next unsuspecting victim.

And during events, guns are forced to be in 'Good' condition.
This means that the BAR used to be 9 damage; so you had to land 6 hits on your opponent.
But now it deals 10 in such events-- this means you can take an opponent out in 5 hits.

And let's not forget, you're able to reload faster now.

All of this considered, it depends on your angle:
For spammers, the gun has been nerfed. Sorry, your mindless spamming sessions have been cut in half.
For people actually applying technique, the gun has been buffed.

I'm not in the habit of catering to people who disgrace the game by spamming, so I have no sympathy for them.

Yes this is a buff. But buffs aren't necessarily good, let alone called for. The bar was OP as it was, and the stats just shouldn't change, as it is now even more overpowered. It makes me sick.

[Renegade]

No, not oh well. Events are a major apart of era, and all pk/spar based events don't deserve to be ruined becuase now the bar is even more OP. The buff -yes I consider it a buff- is not a good idea. The bar was already OP as it was, and now upping the damage and lowering the reload time makes it
More powerful. Yes it takes 5 shots to kill in perfect shape, but in certain circumstances it's just too powerful. Let's say someone has 32 health. Normally the bar does 10 damage. If you were to try to kill the person with 32 health, it would take 4 shots; 3*10=30<Which is less than 32 so it would take another shot 4*10>32 to kill the person. When using the new, 10 damage bar(11 upgraded; for this example I'm implying all guns are in perfect shape, as majority of people upgrade guns) it would take 3 shots to kill the person, as 11*3=33 which is greater than 32. That's a huge advantage. Don't try to retort saying the clip size was reduced and use that fact to say it was a nerf; the higher damage and fSter reload more than makes up for that.

As for what I said about events, the new bar has a huge advantage. In all pk/spar based events, all guns do damage they would normally do in good shape. With that being said, the bar took 6 shots to kill, while most other guns like the m4 or souizen, 8 damage guns, took 7 shots to kill. Yes the bar still had an advantage, but it was a reasonable, well-deserved one, considering it is basically the most expensive gun in the game. Now since the new bar does 10 dmg, it will do, does, 10 damage in events, which means it only takes 5 shots to kill, while like I just said, majority of other guns will take 7 shots to kill, and that's just stupidly unfair and that fact that bitszam had no idea this was even a problem worries me.

This needs to be fixed.

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Yes this is a buff. But buffs aren't necessarily good, let alone called for. The bar was OP as it was, and the stats just shouldn't change, as it is now even more overpowered. It makes me sick.

Mate it's a test, stop complaining obviously it isn't intended to be made a buff which was why he decided to test it first, whose to say he won't try some other changes over the next few days because usually a test implies trying a range of different things until you can get a working end result.

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I mean seriously it hasn't even been a day

[Collin.]

Mate it's a test, stop complaining obviously it isn't intended to be made a buff which was why he decided to test it first, whose to say he won't try some other changes over the next few days because usually a test implies trying a range of different things until you can get a working end result.

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I mean seriously it hasn't even been a day

Lol? I'm aware, thank you. This is a test, and I'm sure they want feedback, so This is my opinion. As you can probably tell, I hate it.