Weapons-The Hole

[Lord Greg]

A possible solution is changing the system. If health was changed to 100 or 200 or something like that it would allow variation on guns without them being OP by being slightly better. The current system allows very little variation because 1 damage makes all the difference at times. How I see it is that guns shouldn't be changed if the system is the problem.

[PublicSchool]

[ QUOTE=Lord Greg;157565]A possible solution is changing the system. If health was changed to 100 or 200 or something like that it would allow variation on guns without them being OP by being slightly better. The current system allows very little variation because 1 damage makes all the difference at times. How I see it is that guns shouldn't be changed if the system is the problem.[/QUOTE]


I like your idea to change health from 100 to 200, but wouldn't that need more bullets and it would take more time I guess, so another thing would be to have less reload freeze in all guns

[Distorted]

This isn't a complaint, rant, suggestion etc. This is the current situation in my opinion.
Right now you really can't use any skill in era with the current weapons situation it's just spam and numbers in basing and I'm sure spar sucks now as well with Bars, Mini guns, flamethrowers etc.
Here's the problem, everyone bought these weapons or saved the ec because these guns were advertised as such. So you have the ppl without the weapons complaining that GA's should nerf or just blasting the current GA's and saying Meph was better or name dropping past GA's. Then on the other side you have the people who bought these weapons and let's be honest wasted real money for it so they want the weapon to stay the same because thts why they bought it. Both sides have VERY valid points and think this all has happened because of the current GA's. So no one can ever be happy because one side will always be screwed.

Here are some more fun facts, the current GA's can't rlly do anything except polish the present turd. No disrespect to Meph or any other past GA's but they can't do anything about this either except bandage the problem which the current GA's are doing. We are currently in a hole that we keep digging deeper with new weapons. GA's need to get any changes approved and they don't determine prices. You can't blame anyone but ourselves/owners. The only way to make everyone happy is to nerf and do refunds but that will NVR happen because we have shown the owners we are ready to pay any price they set.
I think we need to give Bitz a break even though I don't agree with his bandaging of the situation with gfx, and unnecessary nerfs of other guns.
If you think you have a solution that is realistic I would love to hear it. Refunds/Partial refunds aren't realistic because no one will be paid for many weeks if they were to happen. The hole is deep learn to live underground or figure out a way to build a ladder.
The point is Stop making the same useless threads...

This is exactly a rant thread. You not only contradicted yourself multiple times, but sounded unbelievably immature while doing so. Nice job.

[Lord Greg]

I like your idea to change health from 100 to 200, but wouldn't that need more bullets and it would take more time I guess, so another thing would be to have less reload freeze in all guns

I don't think I was too clear on what I meant. By changing the health it would mean the damage would be scaled up to fit the new damage but will allow a bigger range of weapons and stats.

[BiTzSam]

A possible solution is changing the system. If health was changed to 100 or 200 or something like that it would allow variation on guns without them being OP by being slightly better. The current system allows very little variation because 1 damage makes all the difference at times. How I see it is that guns shouldn't be changed if the system is the problem.

I've asked about 100 hp but last time there was some issue that would happen if that was changed, well see

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As far as refunds go, with stefan gone I will change my statement on it never happening to most likely wont

[Token]

This isn't a complaint, rant, suggestion etc. This is the current situation in my opinion.
Right now you really can't use any skill in era with the current weapons situation it's just spam and numbers in basing and I'm sure spar sucks now as well with Bars, Mini guns, flamethrowers etc.
Here's the problem, everyone bought these weapons or saved the ec because these guns were advertised as such. So you have the ppl without the weapons complaining that GA's should nerf or just blasting the current GA's and saying Meph was better or name dropping past GA's. Then on the other side you have the people who bought these weapons and let's be honest wasted real money for it so they want the weapon to stay the same because thts why they bought it. Both sides have VERY valid points and think this all has happened because of the current GA's. So no one can ever be happy because one side will always be screwed.

Here are some more fun facts, the current GA's can't rlly do anything except polish the present turd. No disrespect to Meph or any other past GA's but they can't do anything about this either except bandage the problem which the current GA's are doing. We are currently in a hole that we keep digging deeper with new weapons. GA's need to get any changes approved and they don't determine prices. You can't blame anyone but ourselves/owners. The only way to make everyone happy is to nerf and do refunds but that will NVR happen because we have shown the owners we are ready to pay any price they set.
I think we need to give Bitz a break even though I don't agree with his bandaging of the situation with gfx, and unnecessary nerfs of other guns.
If you think you have a solution that is realistic I would love to hear it. Refunds/Partial refunds aren't realistic because no one will be paid for many weeks if they were to happen. The hole is deep learn to live underground or figure out a way to build a ladder.
The point is Stop making the same useless threads...

Was just going to create a thread too, just like this. Thank you, you saved my fingers.

[Iceman]

This is exactly a rant thread. You not only contradicted yourself multiple times, but sounded unbelievably immature while doing so. Nice job.

Not a rant, just stating the facts so ppl stop making the same threads and offering the same solutions. Do me a favor and read it again with your big boy glasses on

[Token]

Hmmmmm...
There's always the same remarks given by players and that is getting a refund.
That idea was highly disclosed to the admins and they don't approve of it to actually happen even once.
This game was suppose to be skilled-base, if the iTune users can't handle it then they might as well leave the game and don't ever return. It was never made for spamming-to-kill type, the idea was to challenge one another to see who's better.

First it was Eat, Spammer, Lagger, now it's Nerf/Refund/Buff.
They expect the GAs to do a better job in their given role to 'favor' the gamers. Little did they know it's not the GAs fault if your favorite gun got nerfed, it's the lack of skill they have and always depend on something OP.
BAR was a dominating gun in the past, next was flamethrower then minigun.
I can assure you if Meph ever returns, he will make sure ALL guns gets a standard balance with stats.
Not blaming our current GAs(Bitzsam, Rec) as they're still working out most of the guns in the game.

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This is what I think of too.
Since this game is getting more players each day, the guns that are common will get a bigger nerf each year.
Why? Because there are 2 parties, the ones who earned fairly and others who paid using irl currency(iTunes, Amazon etc).
Both parties regarded that having the best gun(s) will make them OP.
There's a ton of gun in the world, why bother buying something that others have when you lack so much skill in it?

So your basically saying to hell with all the prices to guns. I don't know why I would buy a Bar for 200k if its going to be in the same tier as an m4 which is 50k.

[Star*]

So your basically saying to hell with all the prices to guns. I don't know why I would buy a Bar for 200k if its going to be in the same tier as an m4 which is 50k.

Basically because the overpriced guns are being too commonly used.
The other lower tier guns are still being bought by people, they just don't use it in bases/PK much.
Only BAR is the most OP gun when it comes to no hit timer routines.
Others such as flamethrower etc are only good in hit timer arenas/areas.

To be honest, I didn't mean sacrificing the BAR just because many has/owns it.
It's just that this game was suppose to be skilled-based but that has ran off and became a spam-to-kill basis.
You know why people complain SO much just because of a SMALL nerf in their fav gun? Because they aren't the ones who uses skill just to kill somebody.

"Buff the clip back!" demanding, isn't it? It's just a 5 clip lost and a bit freeze added, they should be glad it wasn't nerfed on ROF/damage.

[ciel]

I don't think I was too clear on what I meant. By changing the health it would mean the damage would be scaled up to fit the new damage but will allow a bigger range of weapons and stats.

why create so much work when all you need to do is balance a couple overpowered guns?

. It's just that this game was suppose to be skilled-based but that has ran off and became a spam-to-kill basis.
You know why people complain SO much just because of a SMALL nerf in their fav gun? Because they aren't the ones who uses skill just to kill somebody.

Bar - "Buff the clip back!" demanding, isn't it? It's just a 5 clip lost and a bit freeze added, they should be glad it wasn't nerfed on ROF/damage.

yeah i never understood why they did that stupid clip nerf when they should have touched the damage and rof :mad: