It's nice to see admins are uneducated

[Shady]

Please explain to me these 'types of national socialism' that do not involve a form of racial or religious discrimination, because they do not exist -- if you don't support racism, great. That still does not change anything -- that would just be something you do not believe in, but is still a part of, national socialism. You can try to refute this all you want, but I doubt you could show any form of legitimate evidence to dictate otherwise.

Also, stop trying to take what I said out of context. I never called being a 'Nazi' or believer of their beliefs and principles as a crime. The point of me bringing up 'bad history' was not to point fingers, but to shed light on why it can be seen as offensive. I never pointed fingers -- never said you where promoting or forcing your beliefs of Nazism -- never called you an extremist. You don't need to hype something up to try to make a point, it would not be a logical reason anyways.

Your gang was renamed several times so that the majority of the players would not feel offended by it. You refused to take the 'warning', and ended up with no gang at all. Maybe you should have received a better explanation as to why your gang was being renamed. However, you're belief in national socialism (without racial discrimination), still does not change the negative connotation it has gained since the early to mid 1900s. The fact that is offensive to the majority of the WORLD does not seem to stick to you.

You refused to comply with something as simple as this. If you wanted a private gang, where you could speak freely and continually support your beliefs, it would have been wiser for you to choose an acronym of some sort. Once again, it was not due to your actual beliefs or that you are being discriminated against that you were jailed/lost your gang, but your refusal to comply with the rules.

Ok lets start to make some points because this is gonna be numerated.
1.by saying that racism is still a part of national socialism well let me make a point here.
The christians have been making wars since they existed. Such as the holy war.
Muhammed married his underage cousin.
Just some little points we dont take prejudices over them do we?
2.you were going out of the context your self just by saying these extremists racist things that nazis did.
3.my gang name was renamed only once, and why the players would be offended about it, are you joking right now or are you actually serious? You are claiming that some people might be offended by the name naazism ? It's like someone walking to a church and feeling offended about it just because of all the holy wars and all the crimes the christianity did in the past.
The fact that most of the world doesnt stick with me doesnt mean i shouldnt be able to make a gang in a videogame called something i believe on, as long as i dont act extremist im not doing anything bad.
4. Why should i hide my beliefs over an acronym?
5.i refused to comply with the rules? Which rules explain me naazism isnt a ban word i didnt do jack**** i asked what was the size of the gang logo and all started from that i havent done anything to other players yet i got jailed for 'racism'

[Vaki]

a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
Definition^
The first advocates of socialism favored social levelling in order to create a meritocratic or technocratic society based on individual talent. This is a ranking system based on your talents. Sweden was governed by a Socialist party called the Norwegian Labor Party that was to ensure the universal provision of basic human rights and stabilizing the economy. Other socialist party's distinguished it's self by promoting gender equality. The UNITED NATIONS WORLD HAPPINESS REPORT 2013 said that the HAPPIEST countries are from Northern Europe where the Nordic Model of Social Democracy is employed, with Denmark topping the list. Those country's also have the freedom to make life choices.

There has also been several Socialist mayors within the United States mainly being the city of Milwaukee.

Here's the main Philosophy behind it: Early socialist thought took influences from a diverse range of philosophies such as civic republicanism, Enlightenment rationalism, romanticism, forms of materialism, Christianity (both Catholic and Protestant), natural law and natural rights theory, utilitarianism and liberal political economy.

You are taking one hiccup from socialism and saying it's all corrupted when actually it has more benefits then bad behind it.

I'm fighting this even though i'm American and I don't believe in Socialism, But I do fight for freedom.

[Shady]

Please do your research before trying to tell me that 'it existed a long time before that'. The point was that it is seen offensive by most of the world -- he can find many other ways to freely show/speak what he believes in, we just try to limit its exposure. If he felt that he was wronged, he should have brought it up and spoken about it, instead of arguing and insulting us (as well as bringing it to the forums in this fashion -- not showing the whole story). Instead, he chose to keep changing it back and calling us names --- and received a punishment. We are not asking, or forcing him to change his beliefs.

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Do you have a problem with reading? I've stated it twice already -- you were not jailed for your thoughts, but your actions and words.

INSULTING US.? EXCUSE ME? WHERE DID I INSULT YOU?
i never called you guys any names and i got banned before even making these threads so please quit tlieing, you are basically stating that as i call my gang naazism i am exposing and offending the players.
And i swear on my mom and whatever you want i havent been jailed for my words because i didnt insult anyone i dont know where you sorted this out i've never insulted anyone i dont know where you get this info out

[DanTheMan]

a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
Definition^
The first advocates of socialism favored social levelling in order to create a meritocratic or technocratic society based on individual talent. This is a ranking system based on your talents. Sweden was governed by a Socialist party called the Norwegian Labor Party that was to ensure the universal provision of basic human rights and stabilizing the economy. Other socialist party's distinguished it's self by promoting gender equality. The UNITED NATIONS WORLD HAPPINESS REPORT 2013 said that the HAPPIEST countries are from Northern Europe where the Nordic Model of Social Democracy is employed, with Denmark topping the list. Those country's also have the freedom to make life choices.

There has also been several Socialist mayors within the United States mainly being the city of Milwaukee.

Here's the main Philosophy behind it: Early socialist thought took influences from a diverse range of philosophies such as civic republicanism, Enlightenment rationalism, romanticism, forms of materialism, Christianity (both Catholic and Protestant), natural law and natural rights theory, utilitarianism and liberal political economy.

You are taking one hiccup from socialism and saying it's all corrupted when actually it has more benefits then bad behind it.

I'm fighting this even though i'm American and I don't believe in Socialism, But I do fight for freedom.

How about you look up the right definition first? Try searching: Nazism (aka National Socialism --- not the definition you just posted).

[Vaki]

How about you look up the right definition first? Try searching: Nazism (aka National Socialism --- not the definition you just posted).

Ah, I guess your right, but I still think he should be able to state his beliefs

[Shady]

a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
Definition^
The first advocates of socialism favored social levelling in order to create a meritocratic or technocratic society based on individual talent. This is a ranking system based on your talents. Sweden was governed by a Socialist party called the Norwegian Labor Party that was to ensure the universal provision of basic human rights and stabilizing the economy. Other socialist party's distinguished it's self by promoting gender equality. The UNITED NATIONS WORLD HAPPINESS REPORT 2013 said that the HAPPIEST countries are from Northern Europe where the Nordic Model of Social Democracy is employed, with Denmark topping the list. Those country's also have the freedom to make life choices.

There has also been several Socialist mayors within the United States mainly being the city of Milwaukee.

Here's the main Philosophy behind it: Early socialist thought took influences from a diverse range of philosophies such as civic republicanism, Enlightenment rationalism, romanticism, forms of materialism, Christianity (both Catholic and Protestant), natural law and natural rights theory, utilitarianism and liberal political economy.

You are taking one hiccup from socialism and saying it's all corrupted when actually it has more benefits then bad behind it.

I'm fighting this even though i'm American and I don't believe in Socialism, But I do fight for freedom.

He is actually saying that i was calling them names lol this is so sad even tho i just asked for changing my logo that's what i got i guess... And i should shut up about it?

[DanTheMan]

Ok lets start to make some points because this is gonna be numerated.
1.by saying that racism is still a part of national socialism well let me make a point here.
The christians have been making wars since they existed. Such as the holy war.
Muhammed married his underage cousin.
Just some little points we dont take prejudices over them do we?
2.you were going out of the context your self just by saying these extremists racist things that nazis did.
3.my gang name was renamed only once, and why the players would be offended about it, are you joking right now or are you actually serious? You are claiming that some people might be offended by the name naazism ? It's like someone walking to a church and feeling offended about it just because of all the holy wars and all the crimes the christianity did in the past.
The fact that most of the world doesnt stick with me doesnt mean i shouldnt be able to make a gang in a videogame called something i believe on, as long as i dont act extremist im not doing anything bad.
4. Why should i hide my beliefs over an acronym?
5.i refused to comply with the rules? Which rules explain me naazism isnt a ban word i didnt do jack**** i asked what was the size of the gang logo and all started from that i havent done anything to other players yet i got jailed for 'racism'

(1) You've missed the point. Entirely. I am not going to repeat myself a third time.
(2) How is it going out of context? It explains why it has a negative connotation and why it is often seen as offensive. It still relates to your beliefs, even though not as extreme. I only made one reference, but okay.
(3) How ignorant can you be?
(4) That's the point of this entire thread and everything I've posted.
(5) Missed the point again. Can you read? It is offensive. It was renamed because of this. No one said it was a 'ban word'.

You can continually feign ignorance, but it doesn't change the result. If you feel that you were wronged, then the APPROPRIATE thing to do would to send a support ticket, instead of trying to write a sob story on the forums.

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[Vaki]

He is actually saying that i was calling them names lol this is so sad even tho i just asked for changing my logo that's what i got i guess... And i should shut up about it?

Bro, it's best to not say anything Dan is right, I misread it, and it could be offensive to some people, even though I still support the freedom to express beliefs.

[Shady]

(1) You've missed the point. Entirely. I am not going to repeat myself a third time.
(2) How is it going out of context? It explains why it has a negative connotation and why it is often seen as offensive. It still relates to your beliefs, even though not as extreme. I only made one reference, but okay.
(3) How ignorant can you be?
(4) That's the point of this entire thread and everything I've posted.
(5) Missed the point again. Can you read? It is offensive. It was renamed because of this. No one said it was a 'ban word'.

You can continually feign ignorance, but it doesn't change the result. If you feel that you were wronged, then the APPROPRIATE thing to do would to send a support ticket, instead of trying to write a sob story on the forums.

support.toonslab.com

I like how you are still trying to defend your self by saying all these historical things and stuff, the one missing the whole point is you, the point of the whole discussion is i got jailed for nothing, i never said racist things in public (the reason i was banned) and nobody told me my why my gang name was inappropriate, i see plenty of people every day insulting theirselves with racists words but apparently you guys are too busy making a big deal out of a harmless gang with one player.
I dont want to send a ticket i want to hear player's opinion on this event even if you bring up historical things that happened it wont make me an extremist and even if you say that you arent calling me an extremist dont even bring these things up, because even if "it's the reason why some people would get offended off" it's the same as saying a muslim would get offended infront of a christian just for the things they did and dont call me ignorant or anything because that's the point you are trying to make.

[Elfren Eve]

It's just not appropriate period.