Model 1887's

[DorZeGraal]

ummmmm no, i stated the sawed off already, while it's the only thing close, its not even close to comparison with the models. the models have a larger mag capacity, reload faster, less freeze... you're telling me you are a weapons expert? LOL the sawed off doesnt even have a freeze CLOSE to the BAR. I think you need to reinvent your definition of weapons expert. I have the sawed off and it is garbage. the reload freeze for 3 shots is stupid.

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It actually did do this in the PC client so it should be included

Reading everything in Bold proved the Point that the Models will be too Op.
/closethread.

[Miffy]

Reading everything in Bold proved the Point that the Models will be too Op.
/closethread.

you guys are seriously dumb. non stacked 5 damage low freeze is SOOOO OP let me tell you, But running around with a huge mag in a BAR that does 10 DMG and spams auto is not too OP and is acceptable. Where's your logic? y'all dont know much about the gun

[Shadow7980]

ummmmm no, i stated the sawed off already, while it's the only thing close, its not even close to comparison with the models. the models have a larger mag capacity, reload faster, less freeze... you're telling me you are a weapons expert? LOL the sawed off doesnt even have a freeze CLOSE to the BAR. I think you need to reinvent your definition of weapons expert. I have the sawed off and it is garbage. the reload freeze for 3 shots is stupid.

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It actually did do this in the PC client so it should be included

Sawed Shotgun: $50000
Dual: No
Damage: 6
Spread: 0.2
Freeze: 0.15
Fire Rate: 0.5
Reload Freeze: 0.6
Auto: No
Clip: 12
Not Stacked

I dug up some stats. Considering I don't have the gun, I think my estimate of "close to BAR" wasn't that far off the charts. Now, you're new to forums so I'd just like to tell you that insulting me wouldn't be in your best interest. Just a friendly warning.

This Model you're talking about seems to be pretty overpowered. I think it should be added as a 200k weapon, with some nerfs.

[DorZeGraal]

you guys are seriously dumb. non stacked 5 damage low freeze is SOOOO OP let me tell you, But running around with a huge mag in a BAR that does 10 DMG and spams auto is not too OP and is acceptable. Where's your logic? y'all dont know much about the gun

Factor in the Fact that most people will use it in spar.
The sawed shotgun is already OP in spar, So if your raising the Stats of it will make it EVEN more op.
Your obviously new to IEra, you might need to listen to the Veteran's of it Before you Call us Stupid.

[Greeze]

Who cares about the PC one, let's balance it for iEra.

[John98]

No bad idea to add this.

[Froz]

PBP is easy as hell to defeat. If you're losing to them, theres something wrong.

^^^^^^^
Freeze is way to high
Which is why its bad at spar

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you guys are seriously dumb. non stacked 5 damage low freeze is SOOOO OP let me tell you, But running around with a huge mag in a BAR that does 10 DMG and spams auto is not too OP and is acceptable. Where's your logic? y'all dont know much about the gun

Bar is 200k the models are not
Your comparing an apple to an orange

[Greeze]

CAN ANYONE LISTEN?

The 87 doesn't need to match PC Era's stats identically, we just need to nerf it down for corn sake.

[Miffy]

I honestly don't see the difference from pc era to iEra, but you guys are the experts since I played PC era since 2003 and don't really know **** about iEra.

Whatever,
fact of the matter being that they aren't OP as you claim.
The reload freeze of the sawed off is a death sentence, so not really OP in spar.
Anywho, I don't really care what I say to you, you have your opinion, i have mine.