READ- Weapon Rebalancing

[BiTzSam]

if u nerf shipka imam quit it will ruin it for a lot of people

ok bye

[imaginary]

ok bye

Bye farewell BiSam

[N!chola$]

Rip

[Donald]

One I gotta saw is, I'm fine with the changes that will be made if its about giving noobs a chance of winning. But what I'm not fond with is this discussion about gun hierarchies because it seems like an entirely subjective things that is relative to nerfing guns meaning to say I'm ok for example my ion being nerfed but not to the point where a weapon which wasn''t as good as it before is now proportionally better just because it was obtained by a method you judged to be harder to get is rarer or is 'free'. So I'm hoping you keep things as proportionate as possible & not lean so much say Events guns should be nerfed more but auction guns not so much, just keep it fair, if you're going to nert it, then nerf it all equally I don't think reward guns, auction guns or event guns should deserve any subjective favouritism because of how they were obtained, because by that time its no longer about making things fair for noobs its bias.

Just to clarify, what I mean is I''m not saying 200k item should not be better than a 10k item. I'm saying that you can't accurately compare Event Coin items to iTunes/ Reward items/ Auction items & so because you can't accurately judge it, best thing is for all to be nerfed the same. That is the hierarchies should be kept in place each retaining its unique features, none given favouritism treatment like for example Ion being nerfed from being M4a3 level to near Vector level the hierchacies still remain but M4A3 is not nerfed as much because you thinks its not 'free' like Ion.

[Celestial]

The mtarx is an auction gun not a reward gun. And that gun, including the mp5a5 which is the 35k 200k gun you were referring too are both listed in this thread as guns being rebalanced?

You dont understand me at all, i said mtarx is like mp5a5 in spar so op so overpowered. Read the guys post above me "if you want to nerf ec gun why not auction gun

[KvNEraa]

ok bye

Your ideas will be appreciated more in olwest
Just saying (:

[Key]

Ok i just got shipka last month then i got bar today which i got 2 guns this summer(asian timezone) i completely achieve my goals, but now i use it and experienced to use bar and shipka, so i must adapt the upcoming nerf because i already experience using bar and shipka but its gonna be ruin for those ppl who have their guns.

[Beo]

Apply a similar system to spar complex problem solved about base its meant to be heavy fight always since the beginning if u think that your nerfs will actually help your wrong still 1 vs 5 in a base wont help
People pays money to get the same status that are listed in game don't forget that bar got a nerf and most of the guns u listed already gotten nerfed
And of curse people care about the gun they use because they paid for it you might not know how it took people a month or more working to get bar hence sam you got it for free for sure u dont know how worthy guns is to players specially the ones they always use and how hard people worked to get it
Find a new solutions. If u want a skills perhaps u sam have the time to apply your ideas in the upcoming county side such as making a new way to base in county side basses that focuses more on skills/combat and maybe make a spar complex building there in the new county side and make it works like u want focusing on skills/ combat it would be waste of time applying that coz there is something called mpx already for combat/skills.


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[XR]

I'm ok with the changes made so far. It has to happen sooner or later for the better of the community. Only thing, I'd like to point out is to maybe consider increasing the reload time for m4a3. Its extremely spammy for a gun with such low freeze & high firerate, sooner or later people are gonna get it & spam their way to victory.

It's a reward gun and it's expensive, it's worse than the gm4 in my opinion, just from what I've seen. I'd much rather use vector/mp5 over it. And you can't say it's a spammy gun, every single automatic weapon (fast firing) can be spammed.

[BiTzSam]

You dont understand me at all, i said mtarx is like mp5a5 in spar so op so overpowered. Read the guys post above me "if you want to nerf ec gun why not auction gun

You didn't read what I said or read my response to that guy. Both of those guns are being nerfed so what are you trying to say?

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One I gotta saw is, I'm fine with the changes that will be made if its about giving noobs a chance of winning. But what I'm not fond with is this discussion about gun hierarchies because it seems like an entirely subjective things that is relative to nerfing guns meaning to say I'm ok for example my ion being nerfed but not to the point where a weapon which wasn''t as good as it before is now proportionally better just because it was obtained by a method you judged to be harder to get is rarer or is 'free'. So I'm hoping you keep things as proportionate as possible & not lean so much say Events guns should be nerfed more but auction guns not so much, just keep it fair, if you're going to nert it, then nerf it all equally I don't think reward guns, auction guns or event guns should deserve any subjective favouritism because of how they were obtained, because by that time its no longer about making things fair for noobs its bias.

Just to clarify, what I mean is I''m not saying 200k item should not be better than a 10k item. I'm saying that you can't accurately compare Event Coin items to iTunes/ Reward items/ Auction items & so because you can't accurately judge it, best thing is for all to be nerfed the same. That is the hierarchies should be kept in place each retaining its unique features, none given favouritism treatment like for example Ion being nerfed from being M4a3 level to near Vector level the hierchacies still remain but M4A3 is not nerfed as much because you thinks its not 'free' like Ion.

You don't understand the context of gun hierarchies I was referring to. I said despite the rebalanace the guns hierarchies would remain UNCHANGED. Meaning whilst the guns are each worse than before, they aren't worse than certain guns that they were better than before. Just the extent that they are better will not as be high as before.

Eg bar will be slower and worse than current bar, but so will the gm4. Meaning both guns are worse than before but the bar still remains stronger than the gm4 and etc

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Apply a similar system to spar complex problem solved about base its meant to be heavy fight always since the beginning if u think that your nerfs will actually help your wrong still 1 vs 5 in a base wont help
People pays money to get the same status that are listed in game don't forget that bar got a nerf and most of the guns u listed already gotten nerfed
And of curse people care about the gun they use because they paid for it you might not know how it took people a month or more working to get bar hence sam you got it for free for sure u dont know how worthy guns is to players specially the ones they always use and how hard people worked to get it
Find a new solutions. If u want a skills perhaps u sam have the time to apply your ideas in the upcoming county side such as making a new way to base in county side basses that focuses more on skills/combat and maybe make a spar complex building there in the new county side and make it works like u want focusing on skills/ combat it would be waste of time applying that coz there is something called mpx already for combat/skills.


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I didn't get my bar for free I paid for it aswell before I became staff. I'm happy for things I paid for to be nerfed to make the game more skillbased because it makes the gameplay a more rewarding experience than the mindless repetitive spam fighting that it currently is.

You're a baser part of one of the larger gangs part of the gang 'truce, so I don't expect you to understand as the majority of your time spent on this game within the past few months would have revolved around defending a base by standing in a doorway spamming a bar