Originally Posted by
GenoIndeed
Apparently people don't know what pay2win actually means so I'll explain it and why Era doesn't fall under that category. A pay2win game is where the best items are only available through a premium currency that is either too hard to get by doing in-game objectives or jobs, or is only available by actually spending money to get the currency or item. The item usually has stats far above other publicly available items and usually has very little ways of countering it. The Bar does not fall under this due to it being always available to every single player thats ever logged in since its buyable with the basic currency of gralats, just like the ak47 is. Its more grindy, but you'll probably use the exact same grinding process for the bar and the ak47 if it works best for you, the bar just takes longer. Grinding or buying packs to skip the grinding process won't make you a better fighter in either way, you have to actually learn how to dodge and shoot regardless of what gun you have or what method you used to buy the gun. Just because the best item costs alot in the shop doesn't make it pay2win, era isn't pay2win, its a grindy game and there's a difference between those two.
Now with that being said, no one bought their way up to the top, they got good with their guns, I could buy all the guns in the game, all the auction guns too and that wouldn't mean crap if I wasn't a good player. And trying to tell people to adapt is just saying "deal with it", no, I'm not just gonna "deal with it", I think it all was a bad idea and not done correctly so I will continue to debate it. You're over here saying people that don't want to deal with it are just bad players, then what about the players with like 500k kills and 40k spar wins that don't like it? They clearly have skill and it'd be illogical to assume they don't with stats like that, they got stats like that because they learned how to play while these guns were un-nerfed, as well did myself, I don't need a bar to fight another bar user, I could use a gun half its price and beat them because I'm a good player. If they were able to get good and defeat opponents regardless of what gun they use and I was able to learn the same then whats anyone elses excuse for why they can't? It's clearly not the guns since they can be beaten with cheaper guns, if these guns are such a big issue to you and others then thats on you, did you ever stop to think "hmm, maybe I just suck."? Anyone thats skilled learned how to beat these guns, I learned how to beat these guns, so anyone thats having trouble has no excuse and should work on their skill rather than complain that the guns are op when they themselves haven't developed the skill set to actually win.
Now with the bar specifically since its most talked about, yeah it was a little too strong but not op, it was still beatable and all it needed was a small rof nerf, not this big of a nerf.
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