Quote Originally Posted by Psycho Adelphos View Post
Money does not equate to skill. Just because you spent your money, hard earned or not does not make YOU any more entitled than anyone else. You are all so concerned about yourselves that these complaints are really maskings of your own disatisifcation. If this did not effect you, you wouldnt be so up in arms. Nowhere in this game did it say that buying an expensive weapon automatically means you can crap on anyone else or you deserve a leg up above someone else.

Maybe instead of crying you should actually think of ways to improve your situation and make REASONABLE, LOGICAL, and VALID suggestions, rather than complain about something he wont go back on. You can only control so much in your life, yet rather than try to improve the situation you act like spoiled children who got no sweets after dinner. Please remember that you arent the only one that is being effected by this and therefore this isnt all about YOU.

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If you bothered to try and make actual suggestions you wouldn't be feeling this way. This is the problem, its only YOUR way or nothing. Maybe you can take this time to reflect upon yourself and learn to communicate properly, as well as learn the skills of negotiation.

If you dont want to do these things then you wont be missed, a crybaby is nothing more than a child.
What are you even going on about anymore, you basically made this speech already and we've told you that regardless of how you buy a gun that it won't make you a better or worse player. We're entitled to say what we feel just like you are, so don't act you're better than us just because you agree with these changes, you need to get out of here with that crap. If you have anything to say that isn't calling the opposing side stupid, lazy, or skill-less then I'd actually like to hear it.

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Quote Originally Posted by BiTzSam View Post
Wouldn't really consider the BAR to only be valued at 10k higher than the sawed AK when its only real disadvantage is in the 0.03 less freeze. Not only that but it would also put the BAR into the same category as the M107 priced at 107k and they are far from being equal competitors. 0.39 firerate is a fairly slow firerate, and 0.09 is considerably higher than the BAR especially when you consider how 'drastically' people see the BARs firerate reduction to be, which was of a decrease of 0.06, 0.03 less than the gap between the BAR and Sawed AK. Pair that with the fact that it has 0 spread makes the Sawed AK a very easy weapon to dodge. The only way a sawed Ak would have a chance is if they got in close which then leaves them open to being out damaged by the BARS higher firerate.

Those stats also aren't taking into account clip size and reload sleep. The BAR has 4 more bullets, and because of the low firerate of the sawed AK, they only have a 0.11 gap to run up to the bar user (who usually runs away from the opponent to reload aswell, resulting in an even greater time distance) and shoot them which in a practical scenario is not enough time unless the BAR user run out of ammo during their shooting.
In terms of reload whilst the sawed AK might initially be faster on the reload freeze, its sleep reload is higher which more or less evens the two guns out in terms of the time period until both guns can begin to shoot again after reloading.

I still stand by the BAR being worth 200k, it is just seen that the bar nerf has devalued the gun because they were used to how strong the BAR was. Remember the BARs INITIAL price set based on its statistics was actually 250k, with the price later being reduced to 200k not because of a stat reduction but to make the price less intimitading to buyers.
The actual fact is the BAR nerf it just recieved is reducing its 250k equivilant stats to 200k as it is currently sold. As the stats were never reduced when the price was, it effectively means that the BAR you had bought and used was worth more than the price you got it for

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As for the Metalstorm, the statistics for that particular gun aren't representative of its performance. For whatever reason 0.16 freeze to 0.15 makes a significant difference the same way the firerate statistic from 0.29-0.3 also makes a significantly higher difference than the 0.01 it should only be. The freeze on the metalstorm when used feels closer to the 0.18-0.19 range giving it extremely low mobility when spam fired.

I'm still yet to see many people using it post nerf, or people that I have seen use it actually do well with it leaving it out of the rebalance for the first week was not an oversight it was intentional
What is your problem??? You are the most biased gun admin I've ever seen, even the super biased gun admin on Zone would be like "Man, that's one biased gun admin". You always ignore everything that isn't bar related even if it goes in depth on why the idea was bad and had strong points. You've been so narrowminded that you've been ignoring people on YOUR side just to justify how right you are about the bar. This isn't what a gun admin is supposed to do, they're not supposed to be the dictator of guns, a good gun admin also should act as the voice for the community. A good gun admin will talk and discuss major plans and adjust them until fair outcome is found, and have an alternative plan. All you did was say you're gonna do this and just did it without caring what anyone else thought. You don't care about the community because regardless of the situation and regardless of who's on either side, you'd only be worried about stroking your own ego about how right you are. If you can't listen to the community then you need to do everyone (including your supporters) a favor and step down because you'll do nothing but bring Era down. I'd be glad to takeover if you don't want to do your job, at least I see listening as a mental skillset rather than a choice.