That actually makes a lot of sense. If you apply the if it's not broke don't fix it mantra. The system seems to be broke so people will end up spending money on alternative weapons. Toonslab is something else they make profit and don't even reimburse the admin.Originally Posted by Drdetroit
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Too bad the one gun admin has a god complex.
So why should we want to continue to play this game when we're treated like this?
Zone's Gun Admin. Dream Machine.
Because we're waiting for him to change it back instead of us wasting over like $500 on this game.
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When BiTzSam made the Metal Storm the new bar lmao...
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Yea I agree with you All of us Better not use Itune or creadit Card Money card from Era Until he fix all back That Why Only Fight Him Back That BiTzSam....
After thinking I think some nerfs were nesscesary, but he went way too overboard with this. Nerfing guns that never caused a problem destroying everything but the only gun that needed a small nerf was bar
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Idk it's made spar way too easy kind of boring. I think the nerfs kinda had the opposite effect of what he wanted in most areas.
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True spar, basing & pking does seem kinda slow & boring. its unlikely things are gonna get better tho, holiday items & stores are likely gonna still be crapy theres still gonna be no quest no guns no special achievements. A lotta my friends are barely active anymore, added to the fact the recent changes has left a bad taste in a lotta our mouths''. This all seem like a great big pipe dream thats gonna end in flames recent changes have acted as a great disincentive to active users for both emotional & financial reasoning, player relations are likely at an all time low. Add to the facts I still don't see how Bitz is going to attract new users when the players are still cr*p, most guns are fairly similar offering little diversity, overall play has slowed & the disdain between admins & players. Maybe if all the active users quit & made thing even easier for new players they'll participate in basing, sparring & pking lol. But the lack ingenuity is terrifying, the world is moving forward yet our admins are still toiling & fiddling with peoples guns against our will. Keep in mind Graal Era is not the only game in the world & with this move potentially killing off the some of the games most enthusiastic supporters, you really do wonder what the future is gonna be like. I even remember Bitz said in a previous post that'd hed thought it'd be better if all us so called pros quit, because we're not real pros we need OP guns to win. I think a lot of the forum users has seen that ás well. Admins don't respect us they have complete disdain & contempt for us, the only thing we can do is prove that actions lead to consequences if you insist on treating users in a dictatorial fashion then there really is no reason to stay, its best we take our business elsewhere, migrate, boycott & let Bitz create his false Utopia. I'm not as active anymore but I wish Bitz best of luck. If ever this turn sour to be a mistake lets hope the emperor Bitz has the humility to undo the carnage & serve as lesson to refocus the games priorities & not further strain the already deteriorating relationship between players & admins. Whos gonna be promoting the game more & whats your pitch?
Hey come pay Graal Era where the guns are Super Balanced & super rewarding .
Whats that my friend the gun you bought yesterday is suddenly worst?
Awh don't worry its all for the sake of making the game more 'balanced'', you should just suck it up, shut up & support our dictator I mean Gun Admin....Um Ok....GL Bitz!
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Well said Donald. But I seen (maybe even this thread) it's more then just sam that made the choice it's all the middle management that came to the conclusion to destroy what wasn't broken in stead of adding content.
You don't understand that in a game with guns with similar stats, you can't nerf one gun and leave the rest. If you do that then guns will become signifcantly better than other guns or everyone will just move onto the new 'best' gun. The two main guns that caused problems were BAR and gm4. The other high firerate guns were nerfed as a ripple effect so that they didn't become better than the nerfed guns
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Sorry but that's just a stupid argument. There obviously was a problem, just not to you as you were a bar/gm4 user but to everyone else there was. You don't just add 'new' guns to change things. You don't even see that this nerf now allows for more breathing space in new guns with different sets of stat combos.
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Not a lot of point to that metal storm change, the difference is next to unnoticeable.
BAR shouldn't have a higher firerate than 8-9 damage guns considering it 5 shot kill potential. Not removing auto from a gun that has automatic in the name.
Gas launcher could have a higher clip in exchange for a lowered firerate, potentially the one you suggested but the reload time would have to be increased to at least 0.35.
Ion freeze increase isn't enough to compensate for 5 more bullets. The point of the clip nerf and firerate increase was to allow for close to old firerate stats but at the disadvantage of only being able to use it in short bursts so not to promote spamming unless you need to.
Ion SMG change, maybe, the change wouldn't really be that noticeable but if you really want 14 clip then it can be considered
0.33 is too much of an increase for only 2 less bullets. Compare the m8a1 for 65-68k with the sten for 65k. m8a1 used to beat it in every category, now it is evened out by only beating it in spread and freeze instead of spread, freeze, equal firerate, equal clip. Its spread is too high to have a fast firerate. If you want it to be faster then the best you'll get is 0.4 down to 0.35 with a spread decrease from 0.16 to 0.12
Shipka change, again the clip was nerfed to reduce the 2 bullet spam of the gun. If you want a higher clip then the tradeoff would be increasing the reload to 0.45 and decreasing spread to 0.06
hypocritical, unless you aren't actually 'genoindeed' then the way you handled gun balance on zone was the same way i'm doing it now. Arguably less responsive to the players comments than I am
Boys, if you expect all guns to be nerfed just because a few are nerfed, it'll defeat the whole purpose of balancing.
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