READ- Weapon Rebalancing

[The Goofs]

With all the slower guns cripple cannon was OP in events, you can't lie about that, all you do with it is spam and the knockback was crazy, knocking you into more bullets in which you can't even protect yourself

Was 50% - 10% too much? Maybe so, It should be 15-25%, but it just got so annoying especially in spar tournament and TTS, you just can't win. Rushing them also did nothing as you'd be knocked back, making it impossible to counter. It practically has an unlimited clip aswell.

Then change the damn event games... They've been the same for years... Its hard to earn an EC when Its Usually The SAME GUYS winning All the time... Only reason ppl even have any ec's is because of CTF and Chance... Other then that the rest of the games are won by the same individuals who already know how how the game works.. Yet you complain about the cc and the rest of the ec guns like if there wasn't hard to earn n now there nerfed? Its stupid ... And if you was going to Nerf the knock back why 10%? not 25%? Why so low... Worst admin ever... He just making the game lame.. Its not balanced its corrupt ...

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[Abdullah1441]

Then change the damn event games... They've been the same for years... Its hard to earn an EC when Its Usually The SAME GUYS winning All the time... Only reason ppl even have any ec's is because of CTF and Chance... Other then that the rest of the games are won by the same individuals who already know how how the game works.. Yet you complain about the cc and the rest of the ec guns like if there wasn't hard to earn n now there nerfed? Its stupid ... And if you was going to Nerf the knock back why 10%? not 25%? Why so low... Worst admin ever... He just making the game lame.. Its not balanced its corrupt ...

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Ouch

[Prancer]

This thread is soooooooooo cool

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This thread was posted so you could share and discuss stuff about the new stats, your stats can also be implemented if you make a good point

[Abdullah1441]

This thread is soooooooooo cool

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This thread was posted so you could share and discuss stuff about the new stats, your stats can also be implemented if you make a good point

Lol Prancer

[Key]

Well, i try to do compare the stats of the nerf bar using mpx, i just discovered the stats of version nerf bar is 0-4-2
Compare it to the nerf bar lol.

[Sho Minazuki]

Hypothetically speaking is it is indeed false advertisement at the moment, and they should atleast prevent people from buying the guns until the guns stats are final. But they are really ignorant if they continue doing it. So Bitzzsam or a staff member, what's your answer?

[Markymark98]

Bar. Price - 200k
Freeze - 0.2
Fire rate - 0.3
Spread - 0.08
Clip - 15
Reload - 0.5
Bullets - 1
Auto - Y
Stacked - N



Scar H. Price- 87k
Freeze - 0.19
Fire rate - 0.36
Spread - 0.034
Clip- 15
Reload - 0.3
Bullets - 1
Auto - Y
Stacked - N


These stats are not enough to justify the bar being 120k more gralats with near same stats to a gun way lower in teir with better stats. I. Want. My. Money. Back.

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Bar. Price - 200k
Freeze - 0.2
Fire rate - 0.3
Spread - 0.08
Clip - 15
Reload - 0.5
Bullets - 1
Auto - Y
Stacked - N



Scar H. Price- 87k
Freeze - 0.19
Fire rate - 0.36
Spread - 0.034
Clip- 15
Reload - 0.3
Bullets - 1
Auto - Y
Stacked - N


These stats are not enough to justify the bar being 120k more gralats with near same stats to a gun way lower in teir with better stats. I. Want. My. Money. Back.

Correction Scar H. Price is 82k. Sorry for inconvenience.

[Abdullah1441]

BiTzSam should changes things back to normal...

[Markymark98]

Sorry but your responses are literally hurting my head. HOW DOES NERFING OVERPOWERED GUNS TAKE AWAY SKILL FROM SPARRING.
You just keep saying different things in each post, none of it even making sense. Just trying to keep op guns op. You were the poster boy against any nerfs on the chem gun and now you're trying to do the same with your ion carbine.

If you want skill based play as you claim, then this rebalance would benefit you as if you actually have skill, you will be better sparring against players who just used OP guns and don't have any actual skill to compete after it's nerfed until they readjust to the stats.

Multiplex was created for an equal sparring field. These rebalances aren't exclusive to sparring or basing, it is everything. They are meant to fix issues shared in both areas. Just because the guns are rebalanced doesn't mean sparring will be equally fair for everyone. Gun tiers still matter, you just won't be obliterated by the OP guns within seconds of the spar starting hence why multiplex will still be relevant

You didn't even read the post you quoted me on, you just saw bar and assumed that's what the post was about when in reality it had nothing to do with the bar itself. If you read the post you quoted you would know I was using the bar as an example to demonstraight a hypothetical point that no matter the value difference a gun is, if it's still higher than the gun you are comparing it to then it still remains a superior gun

So this is how admins reply to players, that's very hasty for someone who is suppose to represent the game. You are the most hated person in graal atm. You took away what we worked for and no one appreciates it. You even have people wanting to take graal to court. Most guns nerfed you didn't make; which I can't help but feel like this is personal reasoning behind your nerfing. And since when does graal just let one person make a decision this big. Graal is a community, but this decision had no community input really, because you didn't listen to the majority. If it isn't broke don't fix it. That quote is held tried and true. It's not our fault the bar was added to the game as the monster it is. You also did not keep the bar the "op" gun it was because everyone is stomping it with significantly "worse" guns. All you did was make the metalstorm the new bar. If one is nerfed they all should be nerfed. So bitzsam, whenever you have healed from your aneurism fix the dam game pal.

- love every one who hates you.

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Spar for an example.... bitzsam's very own ups 45 tactical. That thing is op. Beats bar easily even without nerf. Fast comes with a knife. Nerf this pos. Everything at aimpoint stores, just delete them they're all garbage anyways.

[Abdullah1441]

Buff Neo