READ- Weapon Rebalancing

[LYK08]

well your status is offensivve in the first place. No one asked you to provoke him.

[N!chola$]

well your status is offensivve in the first place. No one asked you to provoke him.

Seems sketchy that BiTzSam says "Nice status" seems like he, himself is making fun of it.
Especially when your an admin you should be saying that, he should have cleared his status or gave him a verb warning about it.
Very in professional...

[imaginary]

well your status is offensivve in the first place. No one asked you to provoke him.

Very offensivve

[jaxwashere]

Seen bitzsam basing at box factory today. Using his god awful bar (with a customized skin of course). Don't let him fool you because he was doing terrible with the bar. I pmed him and said thanks for ruining the bar. He replied, "No problem. Nice status. Bye." He blocked me. Sigh. Very admin like. My status reads, "Bitzsam is the Manchester bombing of graal." Very edgy. All I'm saying and trying to prove is that the bar is a 200k gun that is incapable of doing what it's price says it can. You can literally get nearly the same gun as a nerfed bar at aimpoint. It's called the scar and it is 118k cheaper. But of course that is what he wants because aimpoint is his own collection. Aimpoint=Aushwitz for weapons.

Never though of it like that. Interesting perspective that actually makes lots of sense. Whether he's doing it consciously or not.


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[Untilthemoonrises]

At this point, its been over a month since this new system has been implemented. I have spent a lot of time in the bases and even some in the spar complex and what
I have noticed, with this new system in effect, is a decrease in people in bases/pking bases (in some cases they have been 100% empty), no noticeable increase in spar, or any of the other goals you initially set out to accomplish. Even the goal of increasing gun diversity within the population has not been met. Players have begun using what is deemed the "new best" which are currently different since the golden guns have been rendered virtually useless. This meaning players are using different guns from before but not a greater diversity.

People are always going to gravitate to a name brand item its part of popular culture. If the top gang leaders are all using the pbps, then the general population will too because that is seen as a way to rise to the "best." Also in my experience most people don't emerge as a serious basers until they have a gun of popular social status hence the popularity of the pbp, shipka, or BAR. This point can be proven in instances when the metal storm was popular, all the top basers used this gun and the general population used it more. That is until the top basers switched to the p2ks or back to the BAR in some cases. Which began the rise of p2ks

Spar was the main other reason for this "rebalancing" which is a pointless argument in favor of nerfing of all golden guns. If the spar people were truly affected by these guns that have been around forever then why not utilize multiplex. Multiplex the place essentially catered to sparrers and with balanced weapons specifically for that community. It can't be because multiplex is too crowded because multiplex is, generally, not crowded at all.

So that brings the question of what's the point? If people aren't basing more, aren't sparring more, and we haven't accomplished anything except gaining the anger of a lot of players. I'm all for rebalancing a gun if it benefits the population (like banning the chem from bases I totally support), but this seems like a poor attempt at promoting the success of other guns, more so the nature of combat in iEra.

[Markymark98]

Thank you so much. This was very well said and a wrap up of this debate. The nerfing isn't accomplishing what it is suppose to and nearly everyone is upset. I don't like the point that I spent 4 months digging in my free time and spending money on the bar for it to be the same thing as an 82k gun. That time I spent digging can't be returned and it upsets me. I could have done something else other than waste my time. None of the newest players are any more active. They're still st start and in astros wanting to rp. Sam nerfed the guns in their favor but never campaigned it so they all knew about it. No one would spend 200k on the bar as it is now. Even any of the reward guns are no good.

[Beo]

I started to afk actually coz of not feeling satisfied with the gun specially bar the 200k gun and i have said it before if it was about skills there where something made called mpx and I suggested to make a base works with mpx Guns if its true they or he (sam) cares about skills/gameplay that would have done better than making people unsatisfied and unhappy and angry
Afterall people (not mentioning names) have told me to get the best gun but that would be done when i die coz last time I bought gm4 within 5days exactly it got nerfed so no more wasting money and i wont get my self more angry with buying more guns to see them getting nerfed in future again thats a lesson you all should not fall in it again


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[Donald]

At this point, its been over a month since this new system has been implemented. I have spent a lot of time in the bases and even some in the spar complex and what
I have noticed, with this new system in effect, is a decrease in people in bases/pking bases (in some cases they have been 100% empty), no noticeable increase in spar, or any of the other goals you initially set out to accomplish. Even the goal of increasing gun diversity within the population has not been met. Players have begun using what is deemed the "new best" which are currently different since the golden guns have been rendered virtually useless. This meaning players are using different guns from before but not a greater diversity.

People are always going to gravitate to a name brand item its part of popular culture. If the top gang leaders are all using the pbps, then the general population will too because that is seen as a way to rise to the "best." Also in my experience most people don't emerge as a serious basers until they have a gun of popular social status hence the popularity of the pbp, shipka, or BAR. This point can be proven in instances when the metal storm was popular, all the top basers used this gun and the general population used it more. That is until the top basers switched to the p2ks or back to the BAR in some cases. Which began the rise of p2ks

Spar was the main other reason for this "rebalancing" which is a pointless argument in favor of nerfing of all golden guns. If the spar people were truly affected by these guns that have been around forever then why not utilize multiplex. Multiplex the place essentially catered to sparrers and with balanced weapons specifically for that community. It can't be because multiplex is too crowded because multiplex is, generally, not crowded at all.

So that brings the question of what's the point? If people aren't basing more, aren't sparring more, and we haven't accomplished anything except gaining the anger of a lot of players. I'm all for rebalancing a gun if it benefits the population (like banning the chem from bases I totally support), but this seems like a poor attempt at promoting the success of other guns, more so the nature of combat in iEra.

Agreed, tho I hope Bitz doesn't attribute the recent increase in player count as his doing because thats more because of the recent updates i.e, the new shops & new base rather than because of his nerfs. It went as high as 3000 after the new base & shops were released something I don't recall seeing in a very long long time. Before that it was around 1300-1800 depending on your timezone.

[Markymark98]

Seems like Sam has forgot about his own thread. He hasn't posted on it in a while. He's probs ignoring it. Thinks his decision was the best and that's it.

[N!chola$]

At this point, its been over a month since this new system has been implemented. I have spent a lot of time in the bases and even some in the spar complex and what
I have noticed, with this new system in effect, is a decrease in people in bases/pking bases (in some cases they have been 100% empty), no noticeable increase in spar, or any of the other goals you initially set out to accomplish. Even the goal of increasing gun diversity within the population has not been met. Players have begun using what is deemed the "new best" which are currently different since the golden guns have been rendered virtually useless. This meaning players are using different guns from before but not a greater diversity.

People are always going to gravitate to a name brand item its part of popular culture. If the top gang leaders are all using the pbps, then the general population will too because that is seen as a way to rise to the "best." Also in my experience most people don't emerge as a serious basers until they have a gun of popular social status hence the popularity of the pbp, shipka, or BAR. This point can be proven in instances when the metal storm was popular, all the top basers used this gun and the general population used it more. That is until the top basers switched to the p2ks or back to the BAR in some cases. Which began the rise of p2ks

Spar was the main other reason for this "rebalancing" which is a pointless argument in favor of nerfing of all golden guns. If the spar people were truly affected by these guns that have been around forever then why not utilize multiplex. Multiplex the place essentially catered to sparrers and with balanced weapons specifically for that community. It can't be because multiplex is too crowded because multiplex is, generally, not crowded at all.

So that brings the question of what's the point? If people aren't basing more, aren't sparring more, and we haven't accomplished anything except gaining the anger of a lot of players. I'm all for rebalancing a gun if it benefits the population (like banning the chem from bases I totally support), but this seems like a poor attempt at promoting the success of other guns, more so the nature of combat in iEra.

Well said...I agree with you 100%