LYK's 21st Century New thought - IN RESPONSE TO BASING REWORK

[LYK08]

If people are already gullible enough to fall for buying gunskins off a gang, expecting to be in their gang for 28 days until they can grab it only to be kicked prematurely i'd say they'd be gullible enough to fall for 'buy our gang revives for the month and we'll give you X' only for them to be kicked.

Insert forum post 'gang x just scammed my gralats'

Just seems highly abusable for gangs to offer recruitment if the player contributes, to then just kick them and repeat until their gang gets the benefits without their actual members needing to contribute anything

Loyal and good gang members are hard to find nowadays. If gangs wishes to resort to such immoral ways of running their gang, theyll be distrusted and everyone will start talking bad about them. Their consequences and effectiveness in basing will reflect this.

What you are bringing out seems more like the problem that forting used to have. Similarly, this problem is also similar to scams.

Why not just advise potentional donors to actually gain the trust of the gang leadership; vice versa before making a donation? I mean, the right to donate is up to them - If they don't wish to chip in, they can always join a "sub gang" that does not need these benefits, or simply give their space off to someone who will. Ultimately, it's to help the gang reach their goals.

There are many games with a solid core team with ranked members and stuff and these members can be the ones donating the most should their gang require. Another way to help increase gang fund is by having a portion of the money from bases go into it.

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[Dolloway]

The idea is good in theory but I don't see it playing out.

New members/ player not in a gang would just want to try join a pre-existing gang/ gangs with 'pro' members as they would generally be richer players and therefore they'd just want to join those gangs to get the benefits right away.

That means you might not see new gangs being made by random groups of players as none of them would have the money to pitch in for their gang. And then lead to more of the same 'recruiting for gang must have 50k+ gralats' etc. Where gang leaders may favour ituners over players who want to join a gang to try base.


A similar idea could work if I implemented it into the gang point rewards feature, but not with gralats.

Have you played with the idea of gang points? I think that could be a great change. Works great for Ol' West, plus it would make the game much more basing-oriented.

[TyG]

Yes, I do

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Doubt it. Why remove something if it had use?

NBK is a good example; even Ebizou Base orchestrated this procedure back in 2011 to the end of their reign (I know this from previous experience). They recruit and then kick - it's a common practice among many gangs. From what I can see, you are implying that you are somewhat confident that hiring and kicking people isn't a standard procedure in Era, when in fact, it's a method utilized by many gangs. Why this is important to see is because by implementing this idea, it can be abused by gangs as they receive contributions, and then kick the contributors to make space for active players. Kicking ranks isn't uncommon either, so it's not safe to say that those with high positions, who contribute, won't get kicked (again, I know this from previous experience as various gangs removed me while having a rank. Reasons included: I wasn't on long enough (despite helping out four times a week for about two hours each time I was on)).

[LYK08]

NBK is a good example; even Ebizou Base orchestrated this procedure back in 2011 to the end of their reign (I know this from previous experience). They recruit and then kick - it's a common practice among many gangs. From what I can see, you are implying that you are somewhat confident that hiring and kicking people isn't a standard procedure in Era, when in fact, it's a method utilized by many gangs. Why this is important to see is because by implementing this idea, it can be abused by gangs as they receive contributions, and then kick the contributors to make space for active players. Kicking ranks isn't uncommon either, so it's not safe to say that those with high positions, who contribute, won't get kicked (again, I know this from previous experience as various gangs removed me while having a rank. Reasons included: I wasn't on long enough (despite helping out four times a week for about two hours each time I was on)).

Yes, I know how temporary members can be in gangs, but as i said earlier, the ranked members of the gangs who are more or less permanent and have gained the trust of the leaders can contribute to the fund to purchase these benefits. From what I understand, current basing gangs have established a core membership (ranked people) and the core membership can be the ones donating.

Gangs who perfer to exploit members can do so, but that will get the gang nowhere and will only make people lose trust in the gang.