Why Era is Dying.

[JD M]

I guess you dont get what I am trying to say. There is a lot of new gangs like strive, black flag and slu elite. But they are just branch gangs of Obsidian and nbk. Era needs new gangs with new players. Not new gangs with players from the other gang. Lyk, you should go base for another 5 months before you want to talk about monopolization. Old gangs get more members than new gangs. If you know that one single gang ranked member has like 3 pages of friendlist to rec.

Talking about rewards. Rewards is something era alrdy has until there is excessive. You can get hat from a lot of events like gst, crypt, designing a hat for an event in game other than basing. Rewards are ez to get for experienced players. But not for newbies. One single guy could have like 10 reward hats.

[LYK08]

I guess you dont get what I am trying to say. There is a lot of new gangs like strive, black flag and slu elite. But they are just branch gangs of Obsidian and nbk. Era needs new gangs with new players. Not new gangs with players from the other gang. Lyk, you should go base for another 5 months before you want to talk about monopolization. Old gangs get more members than new gangs. If you know that one single gang ranked member has like 3 pages of friendlist to rec.

Talking about rewards. Rewards is something era alrdy has until there is excessive. You can get hat from a lot of events like gst, crypt, designing a hat for an event in game other than basing. Rewards are ez to get for experienced players. But not for newbies. One single guy could have like 10 reward hats.

The rewards we are talking about pertains to basing, not crypt or GST. Getting new players to join pertains to Era's advertising, but the proposed solution is to keep the new players who have joined.

On a side note, thank you for the feedback BlackandWhite , I do know that gralats should not be the main emphasis but I just could not think of an alternative to replace gralats. If the developer's could substitute gralats with something else, the concept can be adapt to fit those.



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[JD M]

The rewards from everything is the same. Either hideout melee hat skin. I am talking about quantity of rewards not category

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But idea suggested by you was to keep new gangs not new players. That is difference.

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So rewards will actually not encourage new people to base. I would do something fun not for reward. But basing is something not fun at all. Reward and fun is different thing. Making more rewards will do nothing. Fix the basing system to be more fun instead. But you all keep on emphasizing on rewards and punishment.

[LYK08]

The rewards from everything is the same. Either hideout melee hat skin. I am talking about quantity of rewards not category

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But idea suggested by you was to keep new gangs not new players. That is difference.

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So rewards will actually not encourage new people to base. I would do something fun not for reward. But basing is something not fun at all. Reward and fun is different thing. Making more rewards will do nothing. Fix the basing system to be more fun instead. But you all keep on emphasizing on rewards and punishment.

i don't think you are making sense.
yes I suggested keeping new gangs, but it is hard to stop players of old gangs from creating new gangs. The only thing we could do is to increase the competitiveness of the sector so that there will be more gangs competing against each other, including against the gangs by old members.

The rewards will encourage to base. What you do is not representative of what everyone will do and yes, basing isn't fun so there has to be a reward scheme to sustain interests in it.

[BlackandWhite]

I guess you dont get what I am trying to say. There is a lot of new gangs like strive, black flag and slu elite. But they are just branch gangs of Obsidian and nbk. Era needs new gangs with new players. Not new gangs with players from the other gang. Lyk, you should go base for another 5 months before you want to talk about monopolization.

It’s inevitable, there’s no work around that

Rewards are ez to get for experienced players. But not for newbies. One single guy could have like 10 reward hats.

The idea I had in mind as well. The current effectiveness of gang rewards (gang hats skins etc,) needs to be questioned, in its ability in encouraging the growth of diverse (new) gangs (i.e. why a monopolistic basing system exists). I believe there needs to be an additional different set of rewards (or incentive, bonus, whatever) which is more pragmatic for non-veteran gangs and takes more friendly approach to noobs.

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But basing is something not fun at all. Reward and fun is different thing. Making more rewards will do nothing. Fix the basing system to be more fun instead. But you all keep on emphasizing on rewards and punishment.

1) Doesn’t this support our argument? If basing isn’t fun as you suggest, then proposed rewards could encourage a competitive basing scene resulting in more fun
2) Fix the basing system and implementing additional solutions are not mutually exclusive
3) Where the fudge you get punishment from? Lmao everyone here is so paranoid with taxes that it causes them to bleed their reasoning into other arguments

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As a general comment, I'm deeply concerned about this thread. This is may seem excessive but it's mere stupidity. Isn't it hypocritical to say that LYK is ignoring public opinions, but then suddenly when he adapts his proposed solutions with consideration of what people are saying, everyone scarecrows his points with his old arguments which he has disowned. C'mon everyone is just whining tax tax tax when he has changed the subject from it.

Then there's bs spread around here about "o no you shouldn't say that what about your reputation?" or "imma criticise something trivial as a signature" or just petty ad hominem attacks. There's also literally people who can't be bothered reading so they make incomplete judgements and some people seems as if they can only misinterpret.

It's lazy and disappointing. Of course not everyone is doing it, but it rubs me the wrong wa

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Lyk.... I can rant about that and semi-roast you.... Would anyone like to see it?

I would love to see a rant and a semi roast

[BL1NK]

It’s inevitable, there’s no work around that


The idea I had in mind as well. The current effectiveness of gang rewards (gang hats skins etc,) needs to be questioned, in its ability in encouraging the growth of diverse (new) gangs (i.e. why a monopolistic basing system exists). I believe there needs to be an additional different set of rewards (or incentive, bonus, whatever) which is more pragmatic for non-veteran gangs and takes more friendly approach to noobs.





1) Doesn’t this support our argument? If basing isn’t fun as you suggest, then proposed rewards could encourage a competitive basing scene resulting in more fun
2) Fix the basing system and implementing additional solutions are not mutually exclusive
3) Where the fudge you get punishment from? Lmao everyone here is so paranoid with taxes that it causes them to bleed their reasoning into other arguments

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As a general comment, I'm deeply concerned about this thread. This is may seem excessive but it's mere stupidity. Isn't it hypocritical to say that LYK is ignoring public opinions, but then suddenly when he adapts his proposed solutions with consideration of what people are saying, everyone scarecrows his points with his old arguments which he has disowned. C'mon everyone is just whining tax tax tax when he has changed the subject from it.

Then there's bs spread around here about "o no you shouldn't say that what about your reputation?" or "imma criticise something trivial as a signature" or just petty ad hominem attacks. There's also literally people who can't be bothered reading so they make incomplete judgements and some people seems as if they can only misinterpret.

It's lazy and disappointing. Of course not everyone is doing it, but it rubs me the wrong wa

Honestly was just going to ask for the thread to get closed.


Really went out of its way.

The only reason I haven't asked for it to get closed was because it's attracted a lot of attention and I'm not going to let the interests of either side divide the primary goal here; which is seeking a solution that's agreeable for everyone.



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[BlackandWhite]

Why close the thread, I think we are have a fun and interesting discussion? No one is hurt

[BL1NK]

Why close the thread, I think we are have a fun and interesting discussion? No one is hurt

Just too much of the same topic, I liked the fruition of topics being evolved from one another but it just seems to emphasize on what one person said.

I know it sounds highly opinionated, but if I was someone from the outside looking in, I could care less, just really wanted it to get straight-to-the-point with a reason why.

The same topic will make people stray away and that discourages what the main idea is here.


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[BlackandWhite]

O, would love then if you wanted to present some ideas for Era or maybe commentary on what I or lyk or whoever has been posting

[BL1NK]

O, would love then if you wanted to present some ideas for Era or maybe commentary on what I or lyk or whoever has been posting

Honestly haven't been paying attention.

It's just plain boring to talk about the same thing, I got tuned out.



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