Quote Originally Posted by BiTzSam View Post
Just because you lost to an m4 using the bar doesn't make the m4 better, just means the problem is you. Go compare the stats, statistically the only benefit the m4 has is a faster reload and 0.02 more spread which is subjective anyway. Basically the same freeze, same firerate but bar has 10 damage. Whilst 1 more damage doesn't seem like a lot, it most definitely is.

Look at the ghost ripper, the smg mode prior to the nerf was widely considered as an extremely effective and sought after gun. Look at the old stats compared to the 40k tec9 and you will see they are almost the same with the main difference being 1 less damage from the tec9. And yet people don't consider the tec9 equal, better or even use it
BITZ READ THIS ITS IMPORTANT:

I have a ghost ripper and before the nerf it was by far one of the worst auction guns, it was only above usp-45 and a single raffica in my opinion. It's actually good now because you killed all the auction guns lol. And nobody said "if you use an m4 and beat a bar, m4 is better" that's called skill, and skill is free to acquire and maybe if those noobs afk at start actually got out of there for once they would get some and stop complaining.

Use my suggestions please, the player count has already dropped drastically, major gangs and thousands of players have something negative against you in there status (which is immature but still I can see why they're mad)
and you truly aren't listening to the community.

For the final time my suggestions are

1.) Give the weapons their stats back while playing in bases and streets

2.) Compensate for the major nerf (2-3 refunds max per player at 50%)

3.) Return everything to its prior state and slowly nerf the main issue guns. This is what I say has to be nerfed which caused problems.

BAR: Drop the damage to 9, decrease firerate a tiny bit and give it tiny spread.

ION CARBINE: Fix the hitbox, it's broken, decrease firerate a little

GM4: This gun never caused a problem

AUCTION GUNS: Decrease Mtar firerate a tiny bit, this was the only gun that had a problem

P2K: More freeze on single pistol and less ammo

PSG: This gun never caused a problem

G36: Decrease spread

METALSTORM: Decrease firerate, but in response less freeze, lower clip size

These changes are coming from an un-biased view, I have a majority of these weapons and they do need to be nerfed, but NOT to the extent that they were. Bitzsam please take these suggestions into consideration as the guns still receive a nerf but not a major one.