READ- Weapon Rebalancing

[GenoIndeed]

https://lykspersonalblog.files.wordp...-rebalance.pdf

I'll offer some insight.

Good insight, well thought out.

Some things in response, is this all worth it to you when the alternative method of resetting everything and taking it one step at a time still hangs around? We still can't rule that out as a better way of do things.

And how much do you think this will help new players, a lot or a little?

And in regards to the players talking about quitting, I can see a lot of cases where it's justifiable and where its not. Personally, one of my biggest gameplay issues aside from anything I've already talked about, is that the games pacing is so slow for me, its boring, I've always liked the fast paced combat in my usual base pk activities or just regular basing but it's just not there anymore. Dodging bullets is just far too easy now and it just takes too long for either me or my opponent(s) to win or lose. And since the bases are always owned by big gangs that use these guns, its almost always guaranteed that this will happen. Pacing is incredibly important in any game (and its areas for games like this) whether a person is aware of it or not, and changing that can have really bad results. Pacing is both a personal and factual thing to always consider.

As for gun sales, and in a sense gralat pack sales if you want to go that route, yeah that can definitely be a major problem, any change in income could always lead to some unpredictable outcome, definitely helped kill iZone.

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Well I don't care if your are doing this for yourself or for others. But I do see that youre attempting to cover up for other's reluctance to adapt and be adept at whichever activity involved.

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Telling others to adapt can also translate to "deal with it" to those that aren't in support of these changes

[KvNEraa]

Read what I said on page 49, not gonna repeat myself, you want suggestions then there you go. And I can justify the nerfs I would make if you wish

What do you expect from someone who claims to be mature , yet still trash-talk you in-game .
He probably wont reply to your posts , nor will he check your suggestions.
This comes to show how biased of a gun admin he is

[jaxwashere]

Well I don't care if your are doing this for yourself or for others. But I do see that youre attempting to cover up for other's reluctance to adapt and be adept at whichever activity involved.

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I personally have no problem adapting im trying to explain to you that the nerf is unfair and unnecessary because multiple reasons other than performance also because the weapons are devalued. Also guns that cost less perform better as a whole at the moment. I have adapted if I can get 146 spar wins in a day with nerfed weapons. Adaptation or skill is not an issue the issue is one person setting the tone for everyone's gameplay style. There's more to this than just winning or losing not everything is black and white you have to be introspective first then look outside. Also what is your current in game name? Stop avoiding the question. You talk about covering things up like your identity for example. You could be an admin on a second account as far as we know.


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[LYK08]

I personally have no problem adapting im trying to explain to you that the nerf is unfair and unnecessary because multiple reasons other than performance also because the weapons are devalued. Also guns that cost less perform better as a whole at the moment. I have adapted if I can get 146 spar wins in a day with nerfed weapons. Adaptation or skill is not an issue the issue is one person setting the tone for everyone's gameplay style. There's more to this than just winning or losing not everything is black and white you have to be introspective first then look outside. Also what is your current in game name? Stop avoiding the question. You talk about covering things up like your identity for example. You could be an admin on a second account as far as we know.


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If that is the case, why do say its devaluated? who even valuate it in the first place? I'm certain its not valuated by you, its probabaly your impression.

[Kiwii]

Sound like blitzman making some big changes on his his own desire. I myself would not even think off changing the way the bar is.
Why not listen to your people? Is it hard not to understand that these people worked hard for what the wanted, They desired the Bar people bought it for it for an reason.

The feedback is from other about this nerf thing in reckless, I know one thing if i was in your shoes right now i would be really embarrassed of the choice i made.
New Gun Laws now? This is not right. Graal Players are mad at this and damnit i would be mad to , you even have staff thinking this is foolish.

Just take an step back and bring it back man, no need for a whole protest to happen your just gonna get more people upset, i mean its out Rages, i really think its not right to do this i mean i literally came on yesterday and GM4 is so slow like dude what are you thinking. Blitzman your not the voice who stands for what should happen and how it gonna happen. Now when i switch to auto mode- Shoots slow.....i have nothing to say

[Javi Javilian]

Indeed. for i myself was not pleased of this you should have known better blitzman.
You should not even be able to Change anything/unless your the Manager of guns. By this time your gonna be known for the stupidity of this (2 Act of Gun Laws/Nerfing The bar&GM4)

[Tasim]

I would give slightly less freeze in exchange for halfing the spread, potentially even more. It's risky to make a 10 damage gun have too little freeze as then it would become an extremely strong gun a large portion of people would use in spar.

The other option would be to do what I did with minigun where it might be able to be given a higher firerate but the tradeoff is it would have almost no mobility when hold firing. The firerate increase wouldn't be too much higher as the whole point of the nerf was to reduce how dominant/ effective the bar was in just being able to spam a choke point in bases with next to no opportunity to advance on them without being killed before you reach them.

I had considered giving the bar an attachment option that worked similar to the psg prone but then I went against that as it would bring back the spam. Idk I can probably play around with it but as every bar skin would have to be reganied to implement it i'm not going to do it just to trial it out to then scrap

The attachement does sound interesting but that would be too much to implement I think. I wouldnt mind half of the spread removed for a bit less freeze, thats just my thoughts on it however. I dont know what everyone else would want, but from me asking around it seems people would rather be able to move more fluidly than have the spread of it.

[Archer Savage]

Graal community is really weird. I got used to bar after nerf and started owning everyone in complex. All of them at begging were like m4 is better than bar and bar is trash and and etc. you just need to adapt to the weapon environment and you'll be better than before trust me. I would like to thank BitzSam again for his hard work

[LYK08]

I think what bitzsam really want is constructive feedback and not complaints and rants that filled up most of the pages of this threads.

Instead of telling him what's wrong and harping on it like a cantankerous old man, tell him what you suggest. Not your feelings, not your rants and certainly not your verbal assaults.

If you are willing to positively feedback , I'm certain he'll be willing to consider and perhaps make the necessary concessions.

Players fail to differentiate between complaining and constructively responding, which is why many what players said were either refuted or ignored.

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[imaginary]

I think what bitzsam really want is constructive feedback and not complaints and rants that filled up most of the pages of this threads.

Instead of telling him what's wrong and harping on it like a cantankerous old man, tell him what you suggest. Not your feelings, not your rants and certainly not your verbal assaults.

If you are willing to positively feedback , I'm certain he'll be willing to consider and perhaps make the necessary concessions.

Players fail to differentiate between complaining and constructively responding, which is why many what players said were either refuted or ignored.

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